Curse

Martin Alvito · Jul 24, 2009, 05:13 PM // 17:13

Blizzard announced a patch and ladder reset for Diablo 2, left the community hanging for months, and only revealed much later that the delay resulted from being forced to dedicate resources to another project. It's not like ANet is the only company doing this.

You can only provide ETAs when the project is at the top of the priority pile. For ANet, that's GW2. Anything else could get shoved onto the back burner at any time, and providing an ETA risks the PR nightmare of building up expectations and then failing to follow through on them.

That's why the PR people for large software companies try so hard to avoid making promises. Their company may not be able to keep.them and doesn't want to be bound to them.

talon994 · Jul 24, 2009, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Don't bring back XTH at all.That's how so many players were raking in who knows how much each month.How? Buying accounts for the sole purpose of abusing XTH. Don't try to fix it and Work on GW2.

/end rant

Dakka Dakka · Jul 24, 2009, 06:01 PM // 18:01

My question is.... WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH GW1?!! The game itself is pretty much completed and any fixes suggested will probably be put into the game that will be next, GW2!

I would much rather the Dev's be hard at work polishing up the next installment than try to fix problems in a game that won't matter once that installment hits the shelves.

So I suggest we all stop QQ'ing and enjoy what we got.... bugs and all

Feminist Terrorist · Jul 24, 2009, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein

We understand that this is an issue that you are interested in and that you want an update, but I cannot see how reiterating the above statement on a daily basis will do anything to remedy the situation.

Actually, I think that would be helpful. Not every day, but maybe once or twice a week, so we know that someone is still paying attention, even if it is just a "nope, nothing new" type of answer.

exploiter · Jul 24, 2009, 06:33 PM // 18:33

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Originally Posted by Ugh

And I do think we'll get an update in August. Whether it's good or not... that's a different story. But, if they change Shadow Form (not nerf, but change funcionality) and 600 monks (NERF), I'll be happy.

I'll be happy if people will stop asking to nerf all the fun thats left in the game

Xsiriss · Jul 24, 2009, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by exploiter

I'll be happy if people will stop asking to nerf all the fun thats left in the game

Quoteforvictory.Whats the point in nerfing things that are fun to use,we need more pwoerful stuff,especially in PvE where there are only a minority of uB3r 1337 pwnage builds.Forget XTH it's the biggest waste of time yet,time that should be spent buffing unused elites and normal skills.

refer · Jul 24, 2009, 07:40 PM // 19:40

I don't care about XTH since I don't care about free money... however I do want to try to get some PvP rewards, even if they are linked to characters, so that's why I want it back. I think a lot of people don't think of that. Yeah, I know, I can get weapons and armor faster in PvE, but I don't want to farm and do everythign that I have already once done... basically non-stop grind... and then have to buy skills back too, what a rip. Hopefully if they redesign it I can unlock armor and weapons!

Regulus X · Jul 24, 2009, 09:47 PM // 21:47

I say we put GW1's head under a guillotine and let the Qq stream and splat all across the area.

Melandrus Torment · Jul 24, 2009, 09:58 PM // 21:58

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Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein

We posted a couple of times that we will let you know when we have more information about this topic. Unfortunately, we don't have that, so the statement "We are working on it, we will let you know when we know more" still stands.

We understand that this is an issue that you are interested in and that you want an update, but I cannot see how reiterating the above statement on a daily basis will do anything to remedy the situation.

I know that this is not the answer you all were waiting for - unfortunately it is the only one I can give at this moment in time.

The more time you spend on here satisfying the crybabies who can't live without free Z-Keys every night the longer it will take you to fix the problem.

Oh wait, the qq from the guru community demanding updates and answers is what brought you here? Maybe now we know the real reason it's taking so long.

Ok all sarcasm aside the more you whine about it and demand answers, the more Anet are just going to want to tell you all to go RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO yourselves and never fix it. How about instead of crying about it every day you just let them get on with it without demanding a constant update on an issue every day.

You're all acting like you pay a subscription, oh no you just paid whatever for all the extra accounts to milk the Z-Keys, boo hoo. Deal with it and move along with your lives.

Lishy · Jul 24, 2009, 10:15 PM // 22:15

I'll just flat out leak it again:
Next update is in Augest. And distortion is something of attention that might get hit by the nerf bat. Also, Linsey might be in charge again of the update. I can't say things for sure since it was from a conversation with staff during early June. But there's still the a high chance they will fix things eventually.

So just have hope and wait a little, guys.
GW's coding is a mess and I'd bet most of you would be absolutely overwhelmed by it if you were a gw dev.

It was such a mess that they're working to develop GW2 XD

Quite the contrary, they don't have to do updates. You payed for the expansions and campaigns, so they don't have to add any new free features like Sorrow's Furnace or the Menagerie.

Lord Natural · Jul 24, 2009, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Meh. Fix the stupid thing already. This is dragging on a stupidly long time considering the old system worked fine. I want my monies.

Konig Des Todes · Jul 24, 2009, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein

We understand that this is an issue that you are interested in and that you want an update

This is only an issue to players because people want easy cash. Personally, I wouldn't mind zkeys only attainable via Zcoins - but people want their massive keys to sell to others from their multiple accounts so I guess I'm biased since I have one account (or so others would tell me).

The Tournament House is hardly anything of importance, to me or to those who benefit greatly in cyber-cash from it, so it shouldn't be a high priority anyways.

It'll be fixed when it gets fixed, no amount of annoying new threads would hasten fixes.

Not everyone can pull a "Mursaat Rally" effectively.

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

will the xth be part of the next update?

Something tells me that the xth will get benefits/improvements outside the actual xth (aka: Points will find more uses) in the "PvP-Loving Update"

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Originally Posted by talon994

Don't bring back XTH at all.That's how so many players were raking in who knows how much each month.How? Buying accounts for the sole purpose of abusing XTH. Don't try to fix it and Work on GW2.

/end rant

Personally, I agree. Up to the point of "work on GW2" - I'd rather have work that will be on sites be turned into paying for work to be on the Live Team. GW2 will come when it comes, and both the Live Team and the GW2 team are equally important, but people want to give the GW2 team - which is bigger - more people to work with when the Live Team should be increased to the point of being able to make new explorable areas on par or better than Sorrow's Furnace (compared to just Prophecies, mind you).

If Anet didn't give retroactive rewards on those books due to cash and cash alone, why should Anet bring back a system that gives people just as much, if not more, cash from trading. Because the cash itself isn't coming from no where? I don't think that's a valid reason personally. But Anet will do what Anet will do.

P.S. Martin, you are easily becoming one of my favorite Anet (or would it be NCSoft?) employees.

QueenofDeath · Jul 24, 2009, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by Ugh

Anet secretly destroyed XTH because they realized it gave multiple-accounters unfair advantages over single-accounters. Now, they're just waiting 'til everyone forgets about it instead of announcing that it was removed in order to avoid angry qqs. Sneaky, sneaky Anet.

And I do think we'll get an update in August. Whether it's good or not... that's a different story. But, if they change Shadow Form (not nerf, but change funcionality) and 600 monks (NERF), I'll be happy.

I would personally like to see them eliminate the XTH for just those reasons you mentioned. To easy for those with several accounts to exploit the system. I would like to see it where the only way you can get keys is by effort in the game not a guessing game. PVP for your keys and heck I wouldn't even mind an occassional pve drop of a key as long as it was very rare so soloers couldn't exploit that.

I also would love to see Shadow Form nerfed or at least changed to the same cool down period as Dervishers 120 seconds before it can be used again. Afterall think of the solo builds people could possibly make if dervish form skills were neverending?

Always felt they should nerf 55 and 600 monks, and anything that can kill without really worry of being harmed. Probably never see that though but if they nerf Assassins SF I'll be more than happy.

YunSooJin · Jul 24, 2009, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation

Please don't QQ about not getting free money. I would much rather have ANet work on GW2 than fixing XTH.

the devs working on GW1 DO NOT WORK ON GW2 AT ALL.

Why do so many people think they're working on GW2 at the same time?? They are NOT. There is another team dedicated to it.

sellars · Jul 24, 2009, 11:11 PM // 23:11

As far as I can see, XTH, or the lack thereof, is a very hot topic for many loyal players. So instead of repeating every week "yes, we are working on it", may I suggest Regina or Martin send us updates on how you are going to go about fixing it instead. There could then be a status update every week indicating how much progress has been made, and what the challenges are the dev is facing.
Cool?

Atlantis29 · Jul 24, 2009, 11:19 PM // 23:19

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Originally Posted by YunSooJin

the devs working on GW1 DO NOT WORK ON GW2 AT ALL.

Why do so many people think they're working on GW2 at the same time?? They are NOT. There is another team dedicated to it.

from my understanding the move most of the GW1 Devs to GW2 then got in some kids to hit the keyboard to fill the team on GW1

/ontopic-XHT needs fixing otherwise the Ztitel becomes a pain for non-PvPers

Apok Omen · Jul 24, 2009, 11:25 PM // 23:25

You guys have to understand: the only people really concerned about the XTH being down are the ones who have spent the most money on multiple accounts. Whether or not it was for pixelated money, they still have the right to complain the ANet if the thing they cherish the most isn't working anymore.

But, those same people have to be patient. We do not know what is wrong with the XTH, so blurting out "fix it or die" is a complaint spawned from ignorance, and thus should not be taken as seriously (IMO).

If ANet did break XTH in order to restore the economy, then w/e to me. I don't give a shit about making bets on a video game, especially if there is no downside, which leads me to one of my decisions:

One thing will help the XTH from being abused by multi-accounts is a downside to making wrong predictions. Say, take away a certain amount of RP's if they lost a prediction. That way, people will have to actually study GvG's and make wise decisions.

sellars · Jul 24, 2009, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Multiple accounts = $$ for Anet. So I don;t get why they should be concerned with people getting them to have a little advantage.

Angelica · Jul 24, 2009, 11:48 PM // 23:48

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Originally Posted by exploiter

I'll be happy if people will stop asking to nerf all the fun thats left in the game

^^So true!
Please stop complaining and play the game, if you don't like some build "do not play them"!

But let us have fun, so simple.

Pony Slaystation · Jul 25, 2009, 01:25 AM // 01:25

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Originally Posted by YunSooJin

the devs working on GW1 DO NOT WORK ON GW2 AT ALL.

Why do so many people think they're working on GW2 at the same time?? They are NOT. There is another team dedicated to it.

Sorry, I didn't know. My main point was though, people shouldn't complain about not having Xunlai Tournament House. Guild Wars was perfectly fine before XTH.